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Observation: Agaricus subrufescens Peck (12284)

When: 2008-10-10
Collection location: East Lansing, MSU campus, Ingham Co., Michigan, USA [Search]
Who: Heather Hallen-Adams (hallenhe)
Herbarium specimen available

Notes: This may be A. augustus, or it may be the Eastern North America entity Arora mentions that possesses smaller spores (I haven’t had a chance to look at Bessette, Bessette and Fischer yet). Average spore size is 7.14 × 4.41 um, which is a little on the small side for A. augustus.
I have not observed this locally before (in twelve years). Note the beautiful floccose stipe and underside of the annulus.
Specimen at MSC (accession number will be added when obtained).

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Proposed Name User Community Vote
  hallenhe   40% (5)  
Recognized by sight
Used references: Arora, Mushrooms Demystified
  darv   70% (4)   EyeEyes
Recognized by sight: Cap is wrong for A. augustus.
  amanitarita   49% (3)  
Recognized by sight

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Created: 2008-10-13 11:02:03
By: debbie viess (amanitarita)
Summary: good discussion

and interesting to have these regional differences illuminated.

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Created: 2008-10-13 06:51:39
By: Heather Hallen-Adams (hallenhe)
Summary: East vs West, cont.

It does match the Bessette, Bessette and Fischer description and pictures nicely. Arora’s comments under subrufescens are “In eastern North America, an edible Agaricus with tawny scales on the cap (like A. augustus), a shaggy stalk, and weaker almond odor has also gone under the name A. subrufescens, apparently because of its similarly-sized spores. Whether it is a distinct species or merely an extreme form of A. subrufescens is for licensed Agaricus-experts to decide.”

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Created: 2008-10-11 08:08:06
By: Darvin DeShazer (darv)
Summary: East vs West material

Spore size does not match A. augustus, but it does fit A. subrufescens. Bessette, Bessette and Fischer as well as Smith and Weber have a photo that matches the cap AND the shaggy stipe. Dr. Rick Kerrigan says the stipe is “subglabrous above, covered below with short, erect, largely deciduous fibrils” and the “UV also leaving short, erect, deciduous fibrils on stipe from annulus to basal region”. However, his color photos (2) show a smooth stipe.

Like Nathan, I have grown this species from a kit and it had a smooth stipe. Both of Arora’s books show a smooth stipe, so maybe it is an East vs West characteristic. Smith’s guide to Western Mushrooms also shows a shaggy stipe, but he could have used a photo from a different location.

I think this was the original cultivated button mushroom a century ago and for some flavorless reason it was replaced with the button mushroom, A. bisporus. I also seem to recall that Kerrigan made it synonymous it with A. blazei and A. braziliensis, but I could not find the reference to reread the exact details. Maybe someone will know if it is true or not.

Arora, D. 1986. Mushrooms Demystified. Ten Speed Press, Berkeley, CA. 959p.
Arora, D. 1991. All That the Rain Promises, and More…A Hip Pocket Guide to Western Mushrooms. Ten Speed Press, Berkeley, CA. 259p.
Bessette, A., A. Bessette and D. Fischer 1997. Mushrooms of Northeastern North America. Syracuse University Press, Syracuse, NY. 582p.
Kerrigan, R. W. 1986. Agaricaceae. 62p. Thiers, H. D., editor. 1982-1997. The Agaricales (Gilled Fungi) of California. Mad River Press, Eureka, CA
Smith, A. H. 1975. A Field Guide to Western Mushrooms. Univ. of Michigan Press, Ann Arbor, Michigan. 280p.
Smith, A. H. and N. S. Weber. 1980. The Mushroom Hunter’s Field Guide: All Color and Enlarged. Univ. of Michigan Press, Ann Arbor, Michigan. 316p.

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Created: 2008-10-11 04:46:08
By: vesna maric (kalipso)
Summary: agaricus sp.

It looks like A. augustus to me too.

Created: 2008-10-10 19:32:50
By: Nathan Wilson (nathan)
Summary: Not A. subrufescens

Doesn’t match my experience of A. subrufescens from collecting in southern California, Honduras or Brazil. I’ve also grown it in my backyard from a kit. A. augustus is closer, but I agree with Darvin. The cap doesn’t match my experience from western US for that taxon.

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Created: 2008-10-10 16:12:42
By: debbie viess (amanitarita)
Summary: subrufescens not one I see out West…

…but your specimen seems to have an awfully shaggy stipe for that species. not quite like an augustus, either. Am I seeing some reddening on the caps edge?

I am assuming that it had a strong almondy odor, or neither of these names would have been chosen!

I vote Agaricus sp., with out more info…

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Observation Created: Fri Oct 10 11:25:01 -0700 2008
Last Modified: Fri Oct 10 11:25:01 -0700 2008 by Heather Hallen-Adams (hallenhe)
Viewed: 13 times, last viewed: Tue Nov 18 18:23:13 -0800 2008
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